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Arizona Law... It's the border stupid...

Mon May 3, 2010 4:51 PM EDT
politics, economics, natioal-security
By amabreeze

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There has been so much debate about the constitutionality of the Arizona Law about giving local police the power to ask anyone with reasonable cause to prove their legal status. On This Week show Roundtable guest George Will read the Federal Law that stated: Every alien 18yrs of age and older shall at all times carry with him and have with him personal possession in a certificate of alien registration or alien registration card issued to him. And this has been in law for 58 yrs. So the State law appears to be in line with the Federal law and it comes down to the expanded powers of enforcement.

Al Sharpton, the opportunist, who was also at the Roundtable, is going to a rally this Wednesday in Arizona protesting their new law. He says the new law does not give people of Arizona equal protection under the law. I wonder if the white boys in Middletown NY area accused of sexually assaulting a african-american girl named Tawana Brawley had been given equal protection under the law of being publicly condemned by Al Sharpton with not more than reasonable suspicion. Not only did he accused them at a rally in upstate NY he stated that Anyone who did not believe Tuwana Brawley was a racist. It was discovered later that She made the whole thing up and made false accusations of being attacked during school hours on the day which she skipped all her classes. The boys had been proved to have attended all classes on the day in question not only by the Principal and classmates but also by video tapes. They were found to be totally innocent by local Police Department. Is Mr. Sharpton going to the upcoming gathering as a good example of a offender, relating to the illegality of reasonable suspicion. And did his false claims about these boys, did he sacrifice the civil rights of the people, not of any color ?

Another guest named Katrina Vanden Heuvel on the same show on Sunday May 2nd had also made a statement. In part she said that: ' You have Police chiefs who believe that this (Arizona law) endangers the public safety and the security of the state and it's citizens.' What ? So she is trying to say if more law enforcement agencies have been given expanded authority and increasing the numbers of all agencies to enforce more laws this renders Arizonians less safe? Her statement definitely needs some kind of explanation and wonder if there could be a credible one. Ms. Vanden Heuvel also brought up and warned of Economic Boycotts on Arizona businesses in revolt of passing the new law. Now one of the main points of the opposition of this recent law is that the civil rights of the innocent legal immigrants and naturalized citizens of Mexican origin will be violated. The state of Arizona which has a high percentage people of Mexican and Hispanic decent. A Economic boycott would hurt the non-Hispanic businesses who employ illegal, legal Mexicans and also Mexican owned businesses who would be opposed to the new law and are innocent. The boycott would financially be harming the group that the anti-law proponents are trying to give support to.


It's not often, But the Republicans got this one right this time. "It's the border stupid" If congress passes any immigration Reform bill that gives illegal immigrants work permits, green cards or any other documents for a pathway to citizenship without controlling the border, it could be disastrous. There has to be people in Mexico, central America and other foreign countries that didn't try to enter the United States illegally because there was little or no chance of becoming legal or citizens. A new law could set off a mass entrance into this country. With a very porous border and a understaffed law enforcement, the situation could come to the point of being uncontrollable. The illegal traffickers would love the increased numbers in transit because it would decrease the chances of them being caught. You could end up with a surplus of x-illegal workers competing for even the so-called low end jobs, such as agriculture, house cleaning etc. and would create a whole new class of the unemployed.

The Democrats with very honorable intentions of Reforming Immigration laws have to pull their heads out the sand this time and weigh all the potential negatives effects of new legislation. There can't be a Reform Bill that changes illegals to some kind of legal status without the government gaining control of the southern border First.. With a secured border this would add safety and security to legal and illegal immigrants, naturalized and native citizens alike.

And finally... You might approve or disapprove with the Arizona law. It would be a inconvenience to Mexicans and Hispanics who would be affected by it's enforcement. But becoming a Victim of a crime is the Ultimate violation of a person's civil rights. Whether this law helps reduce crime remains to be seen...

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Leo Katz

Very interesting article. Clipped to Immigration Laws & Violations group. Thank you.

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Reply#1 - Thu May 6, 2010 7:02 AM EDT
midgebaker

The Az law was 99% lifted from Federal law which has already had Supreme court review

Differences, however "slight", can matter a great deal. The main difference here is in the change it makes to "probable cause". My problem with this bill is the effect it will have on legal American citizens of Hispanic/Latino descent.

It allows an officer's "reasonable suspicion" -- i.e., the driver or a passenger has brown skin and black hair -- to become "probable cause" to pull someone over even if no other crime has been committed.

The new law allows them to be pulled over and stopped for no other reason than racial profiling. Even if they ARE legal -- but happen not to have proof with them (imagine a bright young college student going to or from school) -- they can be arrested, charged with the newly-made crime of not having proper paperwork with them, and fined $750 just because they left their wallet at home. And remember, I'm speaking about legal Americans here.

There are some 2 million American citizens of Hispanic/Latino descent living in Arizona. There are about 500,000 illegals. That means that this bill could subject some 1.5 MILLION AMERICANS to daily harassment based solely on the color of their skin.

Gov. Brewer - "... racial profiling is illegal...I don't know what an illegal alien looks like... There are some people who assume they know...

As for the Supreme Court review, to the best of my knowledge the US DOJ is currently reviewing it but has not yet made a decision. Also, I think, it has received two constitutional challenges, but court dates have not yet been set. Do have a link you give me to more recent info?

BTW, don't get me wrong.

My husband and I were once evicted from a trailer park owned by a construction contractor. Why? Because he would only allow his illegal employees to live there. We reported him, of course. That trailer park has since been shut down. We lived in another trailer park owned by a man who was paid by coyotes to provide a safe haven for illegals. We reported him, too.

But that shouldn't -- and doesn't -- blind me to the effects this law will have on my legal Hispanic/Latino neighbors and friends.

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charles carreon

The law has a malicious intention behind it, and would sow mischief if implemented. First, the notion that there are some evidentiary indicators of illegal status that do not overlap with racial/ethnic characteristics in a stereotypical manner is ridiculous. Second, the requirement that every peace officer determine the immigration status of an arrestee is going to be pretty damn inconvenient for a lot of people. As a practical matter, that means every DUI, domestic violence and marijuana possession arrestee is going to have to sit in jail until somebody shows up with their birth certificate, unless the law is imposed discriminatorily to require only the detention of people who look or speak like "illegals." Here in Tucson, the Pima County Sheriff has said he won't tell his Deputies to enforce it, because it'll compel racial profiling, and the City Council has voted to sue to block the law. Hurrah! Way to save time, money, and convention revenue. Let Phoenix be tarred as the Southwestern home of the KKK. We'll take all the overflow!

    Reply#3 - Wed May 12, 2010 10:21 PM EDT
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